15 comments on “A Broken Record on Gun Control

  1. Clearly, two many people with mental health issues are able to get these guns. Solid background checks are the answer but you got to let people have their guns. It is their American right.

  2. Better question is “How was he able to get through the clearance process?”. Why was he never prosecuted for the earlier violent crimes he was charged with?

  3. “If you need to get up to speed, CBS News can do a better job explaining it than I can.”

    Which doesn’t say a lot. They barely touch on the mental issues of the shooter. They just say:

    ” a portrait of a disturbed man with a history of mental health issues has emerged.”

    This guy was receiving treatment from the VA which almost certainly means he was on SSRI drugs which are known to cause violence. He had several previous incidents of negligence with a firearm and criminal use a firearm (shooting up a neighbor’s car) which did NOT lead to any conviction.

    If our existing system had worked, and he had properly been convicted, or even if his mental health issues had been reported, then he would have been denied by NICS trying to buy a shotgun.

    You might want to read this which has pointers to how drugs and the legal drug industry is _much_ larger than the personal firearms industry, so they can buy a lot more Congress Critters with their 100 times larger advantage.

    Guns And Drugs
    http://free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/guns-and-drugs/

    lwk

  4. I don’t know the answers to all the issues around these guns. Maybe I’m not smart enough to figure it out. I just know something needs to change before more people get killed.

  5. “I just know something needs to change before more people get killed.”

    I would make two suggestions.

    1. As said in my first reply above, the links between some psychoactive drugs and violence in some few people needs to be seriously investigated. There seems to be a strong correlation between these drugs and many of the mass shooters we have seen in recent years.

    2. Get rid of “gun free zones.” Allow, and even encourage, law abiding people to carry concealed handguns in schools and other places that these killers target.

    On that last suggestion though there are too many people that hate guns more than they love kids so they can’t imagine a teacher defending kids with handguns. Same problem at the Washington shipyard too – Pres. Clinton made it much harder for military people to defend themselves on military bases.

    lwk

  6. “I would make two suggestions.”

    Actually three suggestions. Make it much easier to involuntarily commit people like this guy in Washington when they start demonstrating psychotic episodes and start hearing voices, etc. (one story said the police were called to motel he was in and told them he was hearing voices, and something about being controlled through microwaves).

    If you read in detail about the guy in Washington he was a “poster child” for why some people need to be committed and treated to protect society.

    lwk

  7. The NRA, very powerful organization in this country. Afraid you are right in most of your statements. No, nothing is going to change anytime soon.

  8. Will writes:

    “3 long comments from lwk. Kind of tells me he’s a gun nut.”

    And in your mind that means that facts that a “gun nut” uses can’t be facts, can’t be right, and calling somebody a dirty name – in your lingo – settles the discussion?

    Copus writes:

    “The NRA, very powerful organization in this country. Afraid you are right in most of your statements. No, nothing is going to change anytime soon.”

    Actually things have been changing for a while. Maybe you haven’t noticed.

    The 1994 AWB lost Congress to the Democrats. They noticed. A couple weeks ago a couple state senators in Colorado lost their jobs in a recall election.

    When I was a kid in the 1950s people with a license to carry a concealed handgun were few and far between – or nearly non-existent – in many states. Today millions of Americans, myself included, carry a concealed handgun legally in public every day.

    Also the homicide rate today is approaching historic lows since it peaked in the 1990s.

    So yes, a lot of things have changed if you have long enough perspective.

    Now the NRA is powerful. That power comes from people primarily, people that are members, and many others that are not but listen to them, and a lot of them vote.

    That is called “democracy.”

    The other thing that has changed since I was a kid was these mass public shootings we are seeing now. But I know for a fact the root cause is not guns. Back in the 1950s I could buy a German battle rifle (collected beside some dead German after WWII) easily and that was far more powerful than any AR-15 or AK-47. Much more powerful cartridge. I could buy that gun with no checks whatsoever from an ad in the back of a comic book.

    But as I said earlier we also didn’t have all these psychoactive drugs being handed out like popcorn and candy to kids and mentally ill people. We also put dangerously mentally ill people in a hospital to keep society safe.

    We have problems in society. No doubt about it. But guns as a prime cause is a chimera that y’all are focused on and it prevents you from looking at the real underlying causes, and that means you won’t solve the real underlying causes.

    lwk

  9. lwk, you make some interesting points but here is the bottom line. When it comes to this mostly liberal blog, you are not going to find many here who like guns. They are not going to listen to your arguments. I’m just telling ya.

  10. If nothing changed after the children were slaughtered in Newtown, and not much did, nothing much will change now. As Bill Maher says frequently, “We are a GUN country,” and he does not say it approvingly.

  11. “If nothing changed after the children were slaughtered in Newtown, and not much did, nothing much will change now.”

    I agree. It is beyond obvious that children in schools need to be defended by responsible adults with guns. If anyone disagrees with that then I must conclude they hate guns more than they love children.

    Here is an article by someone who know’s what they are talking about, a person who has been a soldier, and a police officer – everyone ought to read it.

    Everything that’s wrong with the argument against protecting schools with guns

    http://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/09/03/everything-thats-wrong-with-the-argument-against-protecting-schools-with-guns/

    “As Bill Maher says frequently, “We are a GUN country,” and he does not say it approvingly.”

    Bill Maher is not someone who’s opinion I place much weight on.

    regards,

    lwk

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